Jenna, I am absolutely loving what you’re giving us here, I don’t always comment because I don’t feel qualified to do so, I am learning though, this is a very new concept to me but wow! I’m not only intrigued but already finding links in what I’m reading and what I’m doing... today especially! Thank you so much for making me dig deeper and deeper into a world I’ve never dreamed of... 💫xx
Thank you SO much for commenting, Susie! Your comments are always welcome, no qualifications necessary. I love hearing about your experiences! And I also love that you've been finding synchronicities. That's some of the most magical part of life!
I contemplated this pair through the night before commenting. Something was stirring regarding your beautiful interpretation of this pairing, which struck me as brilliant--again. (Brilliant in the sense of flashes of light!)
The Detective (in strength in contrast to in shadow) and the Eight of Wands seemed, in reading you, to be intwined at insight. Your write: “When The Detective is fueled by that swift burst of energy from the Eight of Wands, they don’t second guess their hunches. They act immediately to bring an end to the problem.” What came to me was that if the Detective is open to that intuitive attribute you describe when in strength (not shadow), then there is natural opening for the flashes of insight that the Eight of Wands rushes in in a gust of wind, and with that insight, the Detective acts incisively. The wands now appear to me to be magic arrows. It struck me that these two could not go hand in hand.
I have always been a detective, researcher, explorer digger into the truth. I guess you could say it is a passion. And there the wands come to play for me. It is that fire that burns as my longing to discover. The winds in the 8oW as the fuel for the fire. Where I go into a disconnect is in the movement with this card. For me, undercover work is slow and methodical at times. Then integrating it into my being. What is truth, what is propaganda. My issue I keep coming up against is there is so much I have on my plate, what gets my priority? Finding a means to weed away, prioritize from all these projects that I am drawn to. Some naturally fall away. Some I struggle with letting go of. Maybe that is the movement, don't let it bog me down. Keep fresh in what I am working with. More to consider. Thanks Jenna for this contemplation.
Thank YOU, Julie! I struggle with the swiftness of the 8 of wands too. I don't do things quickly, especially detective work. The way I've decided to look at it (and it sure could be a sort of bypass for all I know 😁), is that the swiftness that's being called for is relative. So, maybe a tiny bit of acceleration compared to MY normal speed, but not as fast as, say, my husband's normal speed. In terms of pairing with the Detective this week, what I've been trying is to take at least one step in the direction of the intuitive hit before asking another question. For example, at the cave this weekend, I was up in the middle of the night (during the full moon) and I was questioning and dialoguing with my guides about the relationship of the moon on the stone of the cave during a lunar eclipse (doing detective work) when I suddenly got a strong intuitive hit to go outside and be in the moonlight. Remembering the 8 of Wands, I stepped outside (even though I really wanted to first question if it was safe and if I should grab my coat first, or get my phone to take pictures, etc.). Once I stepped outside, I could feel the powerful connection between the moon and the stone of the cave, I could almost hearing them singing to each other. It felt like reunion. It was a very potent answer to my wondering. (Oops, sorry about the very long reply, I got carried away!)
I am so glad you got carried away! I wanted to hear about your cave experience anyway, and how magical it was! I love that the moon and stone were singing to each other, how exquisite.
Yes, I am following you here. It is like not falling into stagnation. I too can ask many questions or consider too many options. But that alone can be a rabbit hole of no return. Where I might be spending time doing something but with no real purpose. Maybe more a drain than being fed. Instead it is using the 8oW, being more spontaneous and just moving. Finding out (as the detective) what will be revealed, understood, experienced from this intuitive action. This makes sense. Yes, many times I am focused on dotting all the "I"s and crossing all the "T"s. Which has its place, but then I lose out on what I can discover from just jumping in! Thanks for this Jenna!
@Jenna Newell Hiott I love this post and am intrigued to learn about the Detective archetype. It makes me wonder if there is an Investigator archetype too, or if that may be part of the Detective archetype. I also re-read the post where you write about what you are doing with your Substack and I LOVE how you write:
"Life is a dialog with the Divine, and the Divine speaks in infinite languages." #Truth!!!
I also love where you write, "Archetypes are universal patterns of power," and the idea that they are NEUTRAL patterns of power and that by learning about the various archetypes, in essence we free ourselves. "By coming to know them, we get to reclaim an aspect of power and magic in our lives." There is such deep insight, strength and power in your writing Jenna, I have so much gratitude to you for sharing your wisdom!
Thank you SO much, Camilla! 💕💕💕 I learn so much from you too! Personally, I think the Investigator is a sort of sub-archetype under the Detective. But that's just me! One thing I love about archetypes (and tarot) is their subjective nature and that they mean to each of us what we need them to mean in any given moment. (I think of dreams in the same way, but that's a topic for another day.😁)
After reading your stone thread on Saturday I ended up making a crystal grid with them in my garden for the eclipse 🥰
Yesterday (Sunday 29th Oct 23) I was one of a group of 8 women who visited Alice Nutter’s statue in Roughlee before wandering around Pendle and then a wonderful feast for 7 of us in the Pendle Inn
It wasn’t particularly windy, but it was a wonderfully witchy weekend - and who knows WHAT may happen before Halloween is through! 🧙♀️🪄🍁🎃🕵🏻♀️
I LOVE this, Sally! Thank you so much for sharing about it! You are definitely magical! I can't think of anything better than a crystal grid for the full moon eclipse. That's beautiful! If you got any particular intuitive insights from it, I'd love to hear. Bless you and your witchy sisters for your pilgrimage to Roughlee and Pendle. I'm honored to know people like you who are reclaiming something that was so violently taken from the ancestors. ❤️
Thank you so much, Heather! I'm really glad this has helped you. It's helped me too! I have such a tendency to get an intuitive hit, and in that split second I feel so sure about it, but then in the next second my questioning, detective mind starts up. The questions pour in...what does this really mean? But what about the other side of this? Do I really know enough about this to share it? Is it even true or did I make it up? Etc etc. The guidance this week is giving me such good practice at telling that part of my mind to just be quiet, at least for a while. 😁
Oh this is good Jenna! I am generally quite good at acting on my intuition in certain areas, but when it comes to stepping up let’s say I may skirt round the edges a bit. I think the message for me is go big or go home. 😂 I think I’m going to know to which project this relates to. Thank you. 💫🙏
Love this Jenna. I think I could also see the shadow side of the Detective as being a tendency to overthink/over analyze, trying to figure something out. I often fall into that habit, your reading feels like a reminder not to get bogged down by trying to find the “right” answer!
Yes! Exactly, this Kerani! Thank you for this insight. I, too, tend to overthink and analyze so much. It keeps me locked in my headspace. And when I get like that, it blocks my connection to magic and spirit and ancestors and all the things that bring such deep meaning to my life. Thanks again for this, I think it's just what I needed to hear this morning.
Same! If I were to visualize it, I often find that my anxiety/overthinking lives like a swirling fog above my head. When I drop down, into my stomach and chest, then almost always what I've overthinking and worrying about fades away. I feel connected with the universe again, and remember that it's all going to be alright.
It sure does! I'm one of those people who, if I feel rushed, I go slower out of stubbornness. (It brings out the shadow child archetype in me.) So I really do have my work cut out for me this week!
Hi Jenna! This is my first time receiving a post from you and I wanted to tell you that I love what you’re doing here. What an excellent marriage, archetypes and tarot. Never seen them put together in this way!And since I’ve just had some inspirations pop in from the blue last night and this morning, today’s combination and the “don’t proscrastinate” message are feeling very...ding ding ding!
Hi Tina! I'm so glad you're here! Thank you for your kind words. 💕🤗 I'd been doing these archetype/tarot readings for myself and some close friends for a few years when I realized it might be helpful for others too, so here we are! I love that you had some inspirations pop in already. If it feels good to you to share, I'd love to hear what they are (but no pressure at all if sharing doesn't resonate at this time).
Jenna, I am absolutely loving what you’re giving us here, I don’t always comment because I don’t feel qualified to do so, I am learning though, this is a very new concept to me but wow! I’m not only intrigued but already finding links in what I’m reading and what I’m doing... today especially! Thank you so much for making me dig deeper and deeper into a world I’ve never dreamed of... 💫xx
Thank you SO much for commenting, Susie! Your comments are always welcome, no qualifications necessary. I love hearing about your experiences! And I also love that you've been finding synchronicities. That's some of the most magical part of life!
Jenna,
I contemplated this pair through the night before commenting. Something was stirring regarding your beautiful interpretation of this pairing, which struck me as brilliant--again. (Brilliant in the sense of flashes of light!)
The Detective (in strength in contrast to in shadow) and the Eight of Wands seemed, in reading you, to be intwined at insight. Your write: “When The Detective is fueled by that swift burst of energy from the Eight of Wands, they don’t second guess their hunches. They act immediately to bring an end to the problem.” What came to me was that if the Detective is open to that intuitive attribute you describe when in strength (not shadow), then there is natural opening for the flashes of insight that the Eight of Wands rushes in in a gust of wind, and with that insight, the Detective acts incisively. The wands now appear to me to be magic arrows. It struck me that these two could not go hand in hand.
I love the image of wands as magic arrows! That feels so perfect. Thank you for this!
I have always been a detective, researcher, explorer digger into the truth. I guess you could say it is a passion. And there the wands come to play for me. It is that fire that burns as my longing to discover. The winds in the 8oW as the fuel for the fire. Where I go into a disconnect is in the movement with this card. For me, undercover work is slow and methodical at times. Then integrating it into my being. What is truth, what is propaganda. My issue I keep coming up against is there is so much I have on my plate, what gets my priority? Finding a means to weed away, prioritize from all these projects that I am drawn to. Some naturally fall away. Some I struggle with letting go of. Maybe that is the movement, don't let it bog me down. Keep fresh in what I am working with. More to consider. Thanks Jenna for this contemplation.
Thank YOU, Julie! I struggle with the swiftness of the 8 of wands too. I don't do things quickly, especially detective work. The way I've decided to look at it (and it sure could be a sort of bypass for all I know 😁), is that the swiftness that's being called for is relative. So, maybe a tiny bit of acceleration compared to MY normal speed, but not as fast as, say, my husband's normal speed. In terms of pairing with the Detective this week, what I've been trying is to take at least one step in the direction of the intuitive hit before asking another question. For example, at the cave this weekend, I was up in the middle of the night (during the full moon) and I was questioning and dialoguing with my guides about the relationship of the moon on the stone of the cave during a lunar eclipse (doing detective work) when I suddenly got a strong intuitive hit to go outside and be in the moonlight. Remembering the 8 of Wands, I stepped outside (even though I really wanted to first question if it was safe and if I should grab my coat first, or get my phone to take pictures, etc.). Once I stepped outside, I could feel the powerful connection between the moon and the stone of the cave, I could almost hearing them singing to each other. It felt like reunion. It was a very potent answer to my wondering. (Oops, sorry about the very long reply, I got carried away!)
I am so glad you got carried away! I wanted to hear about your cave experience anyway, and how magical it was! I love that the moon and stone were singing to each other, how exquisite.
Yes, I am following you here. It is like not falling into stagnation. I too can ask many questions or consider too many options. But that alone can be a rabbit hole of no return. Where I might be spending time doing something but with no real purpose. Maybe more a drain than being fed. Instead it is using the 8oW, being more spontaneous and just moving. Finding out (as the detective) what will be revealed, understood, experienced from this intuitive action. This makes sense. Yes, many times I am focused on dotting all the "I"s and crossing all the "T"s. Which has its place, but then I lose out on what I can discover from just jumping in! Thanks for this Jenna!
@Jenna Newell Hiott I love this post and am intrigued to learn about the Detective archetype. It makes me wonder if there is an Investigator archetype too, or if that may be part of the Detective archetype. I also re-read the post where you write about what you are doing with your Substack and I LOVE how you write:
"Life is a dialog with the Divine, and the Divine speaks in infinite languages." #Truth!!!
I also love where you write, "Archetypes are universal patterns of power," and the idea that they are NEUTRAL patterns of power and that by learning about the various archetypes, in essence we free ourselves. "By coming to know them, we get to reclaim an aspect of power and magic in our lives." There is such deep insight, strength and power in your writing Jenna, I have so much gratitude to you for sharing your wisdom!
Thank you SO much, Camilla! 💕💕💕 I learn so much from you too! Personally, I think the Investigator is a sort of sub-archetype under the Detective. But that's just me! One thing I love about archetypes (and tarot) is their subjective nature and that they mean to each of us what we need them to mean in any given moment. (I think of dreams in the same way, but that's a topic for another day.😁)
Jenna you really are magical - and so am I!
After reading your stone thread on Saturday I ended up making a crystal grid with them in my garden for the eclipse 🥰
Yesterday (Sunday 29th Oct 23) I was one of a group of 8 women who visited Alice Nutter’s statue in Roughlee before wandering around Pendle and then a wonderful feast for 7 of us in the Pendle Inn
It wasn’t particularly windy, but it was a wonderfully witchy weekend - and who knows WHAT may happen before Halloween is through! 🧙♀️🪄🍁🎃🕵🏻♀️
I LOVE this, Sally! Thank you so much for sharing about it! You are definitely magical! I can't think of anything better than a crystal grid for the full moon eclipse. That's beautiful! If you got any particular intuitive insights from it, I'd love to hear. Bless you and your witchy sisters for your pilgrimage to Roughlee and Pendle. I'm honored to know people like you who are reclaiming something that was so violently taken from the ancestors. ❤️
What a timely combination. Your insights help me reflect on some present circumstances as the cycles of life unravel. Thank you!
Thank you so much, Heather! I'm really glad this has helped you. It's helped me too! I have such a tendency to get an intuitive hit, and in that split second I feel so sure about it, but then in the next second my questioning, detective mind starts up. The questions pour in...what does this really mean? But what about the other side of this? Do I really know enough about this to share it? Is it even true or did I make it up? Etc etc. The guidance this week is giving me such good practice at telling that part of my mind to just be quiet, at least for a while. 😁
Oh this is good Jenna! I am generally quite good at acting on my intuition in certain areas, but when it comes to stepping up let’s say I may skirt round the edges a bit. I think the message for me is go big or go home. 😂 I think I’m going to know to which project this relates to. Thank you. 💫🙏
Thank you, Louise! Oooooh, I can't wait to find out which project this is! ❤️❤️❤️ Whatever it is, I know we are ALL going to benefit from it.
Love this Jenna. I think I could also see the shadow side of the Detective as being a tendency to overthink/over analyze, trying to figure something out. I often fall into that habit, your reading feels like a reminder not to get bogged down by trying to find the “right” answer!
Yes! Exactly, this Kerani! Thank you for this insight. I, too, tend to overthink and analyze so much. It keeps me locked in my headspace. And when I get like that, it blocks my connection to magic and spirit and ancestors and all the things that bring such deep meaning to my life. Thanks again for this, I think it's just what I needed to hear this morning.
Same! If I were to visualize it, I often find that my anxiety/overthinking lives like a swirling fog above my head. When I drop down, into my stomach and chest, then almost always what I've overthinking and worrying about fades away. I feel connected with the universe again, and remember that it's all going to be alright.
Oh procrastination. Yes I’m getting better with it. The Eight of Wands gives you the kick in the pants you need to hurry the heck up.
It sure does! I'm one of those people who, if I feel rushed, I go slower out of stubbornness. (It brings out the shadow child archetype in me.) So I really do have my work cut out for me this week!
Hi Jenna! This is my first time receiving a post from you and I wanted to tell you that I love what you’re doing here. What an excellent marriage, archetypes and tarot. Never seen them put together in this way!And since I’ve just had some inspirations pop in from the blue last night and this morning, today’s combination and the “don’t proscrastinate” message are feeling very...ding ding ding!
Hi Tina! I'm so glad you're here! Thank you for your kind words. 💕🤗 I'd been doing these archetype/tarot readings for myself and some close friends for a few years when I realized it might be helpful for others too, so here we are! I love that you had some inspirations pop in already. If it feels good to you to share, I'd love to hear what they are (but no pressure at all if sharing doesn't resonate at this time).